Kaspar Colling Nielsen & Mik Thobo-Carlsen

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Kaspar Colling Nielsen & Mik Thobo-Carlsen

Mount Copenhagen

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  1. Stig Skov Mortensen
    Det er et rigtig fornuftigt bud på et fremtidigt kulturmonument. Jeg mener virkelig at dette skal tages seriøst og arbejdes videre med på højere plan.

    Dog et spørgsmål: hvorfor i København? Kunne dette ikke netop være en smart måde at få arbejdspladser til udkantsdanmark?

    Men godt arbejde drenge!

    » Stig Skov Mortensen
    30. november 2010
  2. Jakobo
    Awesome concept! And great presentation! Rock on!
    » Jakobo
    1. december 2010
  3. Michael Leander
    Kaspar and Mik (hej), what a wonderful vision and so well documented and presented.
    If one watch Emilia van Hauen's video about the Danish culture, it is easy to understand why your audience did not give you the standing ovation you truly deserved. Although your project may seem unattainable and irrelevant, it encompasses the very innovation we need in this ... forsaken country.

    I'll certainly do my little part in spreading this video and hopefully attract some reaction from near and far.

    See you at the top !

    1. december 2010
  4. Stephen Eriksson
    This talk is on my all time TED top 10 list. This is exactly what TED is all about. True visionary.
    » Stephen Eriksson
    1. december 2010
  5. Ronnie Rocket
    This was also one of the ideas for the future use of the historic Tempelhof Airport in Berlin.

    You can see the images here ->

    http://www.the-berg.de/the_berg.html

    The web site is here ->

    http://www.the-berg.de/

    Another idea - that I personally really loved! - was to turn it into a Formula One track.

    1. december 2010
  6. MM
    After this talk, I found myself thinking, "it is a really good idea to build a 3.5km mountain". Fantastic! I'm still blown away.
    » MM
    1. december 2010
  7. Jacob Gurevitsch
    Absolut great idea and speak! congratulations...
    » Jacob Gurevitsch
    1. december 2010
  8. Jonas Lönborg
    @Ronnie Thanks, came here to post The Berg link as well, sure the guys must have heard of that project.

    Think it's a fabulous idea, and finally we know what to use Amager for! =D

    I propose we start getting the funds on kickstarter.com immediately, shouldn't take that long.

    1. december 2010
  9. Mik
    @jonas and The Rocket.. Yep - a lot of people told us about The Berg. It's a really cool idea. But our idea is very different in the way that we actually want to build the mountain. We have been working with the consortium for quite some time now. And the scientific aspects are just mind blowing. But it only makes sense if we actually build the mountain.
    @all comments.. Thank you so much - we are really overhvelmed by all the positive respons!
    » Mik
    2. december 2010
  10. Nick Sigby
    Thanks guys. I was blown away - super well documented presentation.

    You made me think om how to contribute to innovative thinking like is. I want to contribute to creating meaningfull solutions and monuments for future generations.

    Thanks again!!

    // Nick

    » Nick Sigby
    2. december 2010
  11. Lars Nielsen
    God præsentation, og på mange filosofiske måder også super interessant.

    Jeg har dog en lidt anden indgangsvinkel til muligheden. Jeg har nemlig i flere år arbejdet for regeringerne i Abu Dhabi og Dubai, b.la. som kommunikations rådgiver på projekter som disse.

    Dubai har i dag store problemer. De ville sætte et stort mærke på verdens kortet ved at bygge de største, dyreste og mest anderledes ting de kunne. De var et nemt (men dyrt) PR stunt, og i et par år gik det OK. Det gik faktisk OK indtil verden så at alt der var bygget var falsk, fordi ideen bag projekterne ikke havde noget med Dubai, dets kultur og dets folk at gøre.

    København har historie for at bygge projekter der netop er støbt omkring ting der passer til vores kultur. Dette gælder Den Sorte Diamand, Operahuset og Skuespiller Huset. Vi har også en masse natur, men bjerge er ikke en del af den.

    Selv om ideen med bjerget indeholder en masse interessant aspekter, så er grundlaget for ideen… et bjerg i Danmark. Falsk. Derfor vil det være meget svært at få folk til at tro på det. Jeg tror at det altid ville blive set som underholdning, i stedet for noget andet.

    Måske kunne alle de fede tanker, ideer og beregninger bag netop denne ide blive flyttet en smule, til noget der havde en større sammenhæng med Danmark, som vi kender det?

    2. december 2010
  12. Sam Beckett
    Kære Mik. Har fået mailet præsentationen af Mount Copenhagen fra Peter Stenbæk. For 20 år siden sad vi i toget på hjemturen fra skiferie i Alperne og havde den samme ide. Uden lommeregner men med de nogenlunde rigtige formler for rumfang af en kegle regnede vi på et 1000 m. bjerg,- på Fyn selvfølgelig. Vi fokuserede udelukkende på ski-muligheder og snesikkerhed, og på vores breddegrad ville det give en 2-3 mdr. lang sæson. Tankerne blev bremset af de lokale klimaforandringer, der ville opstå, samt det faktum, at der i materiale skulle skrælles 8 m. jord af hele Fyn. Resultatet var blevet et meget mindre, men højere Udkantsdanmark.
    Så slip I bare hestene løs og lav et kæmpe-bjerg !!!! Men placér det på Fyn,- der er skisne i Svanninge Bakker.
    » Sam Beckett
    2. december 2010
  13. Jonas Lind
    Mount Copenhagen er en fantastisk fængslende ide, og jeg var ganske inspireret af præsentationen. Ikke nødvendigivs fordi et bjerg ville være det fedeste at have i baghaven, men fordi her var to personer der synes de havde verdens bedste ide og så ellers bare gør alt for at sælge den.

    Det eneste jeg virkelig godt kunne tænke mig at vide var hvad sådan et bjerg skal bygges af. Man kan vel ikke bare stable jord og grus op i de mængder uden at det bare splatter ud...og mig bekendt er det heller ikke muligt at bygge stålskeletter så høje uden at de bryder sammen under egenvægten?

    » Jonas Lind
    2. december 2010
  14. Anders Wik
    I love this idea. Please make it happen!
    » Anders Wik
    3. december 2010
  15. Mathias Hjortdal
    Amazing idea. I'm 100% behind this.
    » Mathias Hjortdal
    3. december 2010
  16. Rune Hausner
    This is really an idea of fantasists. And how I love the vision and the entire idea of a mountain! But I see one major obstacle.
    As said on the video Denmark is the world flattest country along with The Netherlands. Everything here is flat; the Round Tower is just 35 metres tall, the little mermaid is actually microscopic and even the language is so flat that the French writer Louis-Ferdinand Céline called it "the ugliest of the all". We, the Danes, do know that.
    That is why such an idea is so radical and - to us - extremely visionary. Here is something non-flat. Something out of box of being Danish. Something non-inbetween.

    But what do everyone else think? I mean, there are mountains mostly everywhere else. Is this just another fucking mountain or what? Why will the mountain attract foreigners? What kind of attractions can this mountain give, that other mountains can't?

    And BTW build it on Saltholm!

    5. december 2010
  17. Jeremy Baetz
    These guys manage to do what politicians have been failing at in 20 years. They think differently and innovative.
    It is thinking like this that will bring us to the next level.
    Why is this not on TED.com yet? The whole world should hear these guys. I very much agree with one of the comments above. This is exactly what TED's all about.
    » Jeremy Baetz
    7. december 2010
  18. Dollo
    If the Danish don't build this, then some nation somewhere will.
    : )
    » Dollo
    7. december 2010
  19. Jimmy
    Yes yes yes!!!!! This is what I love about ted.
    » Jimmy
    14. december 2010
  20. Max
    Hvis idéen er så fantastisk, hvorfor er præsentationen af den så så kedelig? Troede Ted var der, hvor man præsenterer idéer på en ny eller interessant måde. De bruger hverken scenen, sig selv eller AV. Gab!
    » Max
    11. februar 2011
  21. Anne Sophie
    @Max
    Jeg synes netop det her er essensen i Ted. Det er idéen i sig selv, der er bærende. Jeg var helt revet med, og synes præsentationen var fuldstændig vidunderlig. Det er imponerende, at de to fyre bare kan stille sig op, og forklare noget så utænkeligt og gøre det så forståeligt på bare 15 minutter.
    » Anne Sophie
    11. februar 2011
  22. Esben
    Worlds best idea!!

    @stif skov mortensen (30.november): nonono, you get it wrong! We will not place the mountain in the outskirts of denmark. We will USE the outskirts of dk for the mountain. I mean, use Lolland-Falster, why not? We get rid of a totally useless area of dk, while making it possible to ski (yippie!!) in Brondby (which we will get rid of as well. BONUS!). Alternatively we can move Hallandsaasen over from Sweden. Hypothetically this could cause disturbances in the neighbourly relations, but well, that's not really certain, and after all it would be a small price to pay compared to the increase in dk's value as a brand. Should we choose to play it save there is always afrika, where no one would worry about a 50 sqm, 3.5km deep whole in the ground.

    No matter how we get the raw material, it will be awesome to have a construction site expanding all over Sjaelland, and sporting 7 nuclear power plants built to fuel the projekt. This way we will both get us some of the disaster tourist, who would have otherwise gone to Chernobyl or Bangladesh, plus the wellness crowd. The latter party will come to treat their skin in Issefjorden, which will become the worlds largest saltwater mudpool. Genuine jacuzzi effect will come later, after about a hundred years of building, when the earth quakes start to kick in.

    Geez! When do we begin!

    » Esben
    12. februar 2011
  23. esben
    Worlds best idea!!

    @stif skov mortensen (30.november): nonono, you get it wrong! We will not place the mountain in the outskirts of denmark. We will USE the outskirts of dk for the mountain. I mean, use Lolland-Falster, why not? We get rid of a totally useless area of dk, while making it possible to ski (yippie!!) in Brondby (which we will get rid of as well. BONUS!). Alternatively we can move Hallandsaasen over from Sweden. Hypothetically this could cause disturbances in the neighbourly relations, but well, that's not really certain, and after all it would be a small price to pay compared to the increase in dk's value as a brand. Should we choose to play it save there is always afrika, where no one would worry about a 50 sqm, 3.5km deep whole in the ground.

    No matter how we get the raw material, it will be awesome to have a construction site expanding all over Sjaelland, and sporting 7 nuclear power plants built to fuel the projekt. This way we will both get us some of the disaster tourist, who would have otherwise gone to Chernobyl or Bangladesh, plus the wellness crowd. The latter party will come to treat their skin in Issefjorden, which will become the worlds largest saltwater mudpool. Genuine jacuzzi effect will come later, after about a hundred years of building, when the earth quakes start to kick in.

    Geez! When do we begin!

    » esben
    12. februar 2011
  24. esben
    Worlds best idea!!

    @stif skov mortensen (30.november): nonono, you get it wrong! We will not place the mountain in the outskirts of denmark. We will USE the outskirts of dk for the mountain. I mean, use Lolland-Falster, why not? We get rid of a totally useless area of dk, while making it possible to ski (yippie!!) in Brondby (which we will get rid of as well. BONUS!). Alternatively we can move Hallandsaasen over from Sweden. Hypothetically this could cause disturbances in the neighbourly relations, but well, that's not really certain, and after all it would be a small price to pay compared to the increase in dk's value as a brand. Should we choose to play it save there is always afrika, where no one would worry about a 50 sqm, 3.5km deep whole in the ground.

    No matter how we get the raw material, it will be awesome to have a construction site expanding all over Sjaelland, and sporting 7 nuclear power plants built to fuel the projekt. This way we will both get us some of the disaster tourist, who would have otherwise gone to Chernobyl or Bangladesh, plus the wellness crowd. The latter party will come to treat their skin in Issefjorden, which will become the worlds largest saltwater mudpool. Genuine jacuzzi effect will come later, after about a hundred years of building, when the earth quakes start to kick in.

    Geez! When do we begin!

    » esben
    12. februar 2011
  25. esben
    Worlds best idea!!

    @stif skov mortensen (30.november): nonono, you get it wrong! We will not place the mountain in the outskirts of denmark. We will USE the outskirts of dk for the mountain. I mean, use Lolland-Falster, why not? We get rid of a totally useless area of dk, while making it possible to ski (yippie!!) in Brondby (which we will get rid of as well. BONUS!). Alternatively we can move Hallandsaasen over from Sweden. Hypothetically this could cause disturbances in the neighbourly relations, but well, that's not really certain, and after all it would be a small price to pay compared to the increase in dk's value as a brand. Should we choose to play it save there is always afrika, where no one would worry about a 50 sqm, 3.5km deep whole in the ground.

    No matter how we get the raw material, it will be awesome to have a construction site expanding all over Sjaelland, and sporting 7 nuclear power plants built to fuel the projekt. This way we will both get us some of the disaster tourist, who would have otherwise gone to Chernobyl or Bangladesh, plus the wellness crowd. The latter party will come to treat their skin in Issefjorden, which will become the worlds largest saltwater mudpool. Genuine jacuzzi effect will come later, after about a hundred years of building, when the earth quakes start to kick in.

    Geez! When do we begin!

    » esben
    12. februar 2011
  26. Søren
    This must be the essence of sustainable architecture. I like to see a cradle to cradle model for this project or LCA or CO2 calculationen - forget it !
    » Søren
    27. februar 2011
  27. Bettina
    Kan bjerget laves af skrald? Som nogle af bakkerne på fælleden er i forvejen. Man ku nok få nogle læs tilsendt andre steder fra og samtidig (måske?) løse nogle klimaproblemer og få stablet det på benene hurtigere... Men det det er måske ikke skide godt for lakseproduktionen...
    » Bettina
    1. marts 2011
  28. August Septimius Krogh
    This idea is so freaking amazing!
    - If you dont start building soon - I will :P
    No seriously, please start up some "fond-raising" or the like soon, people from the whole world would support this! And by the way, it would create huge amounts of job opportunities for a series of different people! - Is there some kind of newsletter or the like on this idea?
    » August Septimius Krogh
    11. marts 2011
  29. Carl V. Larsen
    Are we really getting so bored that we need to imitate the nature of foreign countries in order to find our city interesting? It reminds of a Las Vegas or Dubai attitude. If you live by the horizon you should understand the poetry of the horizon and instead travel to get amazed by the mountains.
    » Carl V. Larsen
    11. marts 2011
  30. Kim
    Not a realistic idea and the presentation was boring. Too little bacup material and too much talking. The most exiting of the presentation is how hot the guys looked ;)
    I am danish living in Berlin and one of the ideas of changing Tempelhof was a 1km mountain. Not far from, where I live. They had different pictures of the mountains and the view over Berlin from the mountain. Also picture of a skiresort and how the nature on the mountain could look like. It looked beautiful and I liked the idea and it seemed realitive realistic.
    In Berlin there are many hills (around 100m) made from stuff from the 2. world war (the women build them) and the hills make a wonderful edition to a relative flat city. The mountain in Berlin will not be build, because it would be too expensive (i guess), so they chose another idea.
    This 3.5km mountain covering 55km, how stupid is that!? Just outside Copenhagen as the presentation showed!? 55 km would cover Amager a big part of Øresund and Malmö..........I guess it is just a PR stunt, trying to be famous, a philosofic thought, a comercial for a novel, but nothing to do with reality.
    And the "amazing" comments are just dreams.
    » Kim
    11. marts 2011
  31. Rasmus Meyer Andersen
    Hvordan kan så dum en ide få så meget opmærksomhed? Hvis man vil have et bjerg, så finder man et bjerg der hvor kontinentalpladerne skyder op og former et bjerg. Bjerge er lavet af grundfjeld og ikke af sediment - derfor forsvinder de kun ganske ganske langsomt. -Så ja, allerførst, man kan ikke bygge et bjerg, der ikke vil eroderes ned på relativt kort tid, men sand- og siltaflejringer overalt i dets nærhed.
    Energi-plus? Nej da.
    Oplægsholderen regner selv i "opportunity cost" når han snakker om central park i NY". Så vær venlig også at regn dette med i omkostningerne udover blot konstruktionen selv.
    Det er utroligt, at folk stadig ikke forstår, at jo mere vi modarbejder naturen, jo mere belaster vi den og dermed os selv.
    Nyt forslag: Plant kæmpemæssige red woods eller andre træsorter i det påtænkte område. Bæredygtig skovdrift vil så kunne sikre en CO2-neutral energiproduktion, ændrede økologiske forhold og meget andet. Plus at resten af verden ville se os som fremsynede naturvenlige fremfor snotdumme.....
    » Rasmus Meyer Andersen
    11. marts 2011
  32. Nikolaj
    Why not just move the entire city down to switzerland? It would take 500 years and cost 1000 billion dollars. That would be "amazing"! It would really show how innovative we are in Denmark.
    » Nikolaj
    11. marts 2011
  33. Christian Orry Andersen
    What a truly visionary idea. I would love to have my great-great-great-great-grandchildren living on the slopes of Mount Copenhagen.
    12. marts 2011
  34. Christian Emil
    Det er det der skal til, vi har brug for det her.
    13. marts 2011
  35. Mikael
    Ser ud som om at hollænderne er stærkt inspireret af Mount Copenhagen og har planer om at bygge et bjerg: http://www.bdonline.co.uk/news/plans-for-%C2%A3264-billion-man-made-dutch-mountain-take-shape/5023517.article
    » Mikael
    27. august 2011

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